[Mb-civic] FW: re. Michael Moore

[richard haase]

the problem though with Moore is that although much much much of his
assertions are true, rather than go into the complexity of the situation and
it is very complex, he then goes into neat explanations the same way the
republicans do; given in the cause of liberalism such things are better; but
i have always felt moore is a shameless self promoter; using titles like
farenheight 911 or bowling for columbine to sell tickets and his art not
worth the chance hes taking with peoples sentiments etc

I am not a michael moore fan per se
although politically obviously colinear with his beliefs etc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheeseburger" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:13 PM
Subject: [Mb-civic] FW: re. Michael Moore


>
> FW: re. Michael Moore
>
>
>
> Christopher Hitchens at his best.
>
> LOL........
>
> Isn't this the same guy that scathed Mel Gibson's film "The Passion" over
> the coals unmercifully using such words in the process as "Fascism?
> Probably"....?
>
> Yes, yes it is.
>
> I like some of Hitchens other works, but when he gets his head up his
butt,
> it appears that he *really* gets his head up his butt.
>
> And only the intellectual equivalent of LSD appears to be able to dislodge
it.
>
> It sounds like Hitchens, the guy who appears by his writings to desire to
> be seriously considered a character and credit reference for Chalabi (that
> wonderful "people person"), is just jealous that Moore's movie hit an
> all-time high that none of Hitchens will ever approach.
>
> Unless one counts his film about Kissinger (aka Dr. Strangelove).
>
> Or else he just sat on a broken coca cola bottle one day, refused to have
> it treated, and then mysteriously began to write "columns".
>
> Hitchens *does* make some good points, but in his dissertation trying his
> best to discredit Moore's "misstatements and non-truths" inbetween heavy
> panting about "The Coalition did the right thing", he fails to even mildly
> approach any of the actual reasons as to why and how this entire "Middle
> East Thing" has blown to such "cataclysmic proportions".  Nor who was
> involved and why.  Nor the actual History that led up to it all (which is
> surprising since he's such a "History Buff").  Nor that "we" were after
> someone called "bin-Laden" before we blundered into Iraq.
>
> Those, among other pertinent Facts, appear to be irrelevant for even mild
> consideration when "critiquing" someone else's movie that Hitchens wish he
> had made first.
>
> As "world powers" (and their implications in the historical
"contributions"
> each has set forth on the table) such as Saudi Arabia, America, Israel,
> Russia, England, France, Etc (the list is almost endless, isn't it..?)
have
> brought us to this very precipice of Hell In Real-Time In The Middle East,
> Hitchens focuses his energy, intent, and malice on a movie's "lies",
rather
> than the "world powers" the little movie sparsely attempts to vaguely
> challenge in the court of "world opinion".
>
> Hitchen's stalwart support and praise of people like Chalabi, and his
> endless stance that "The Coalition did the right thing by invading Iraq",
> would almost seem more important to "critique", rather than the work of a
> movie maker, who unlike Hitchens, doesn't have his columns circling the
> globe in an endless stream of "triumphant intellectualism" which basically
> accomplishes about one-millionth of the task that "911" has so far.
>
> Errors or no errors.
>
> Hitchens appears to be so thoroughly immersed in "the disposal of Michael
> Moore's credibility" and with "defending the ultra-right new demigods from
> Moore's filmatic "mistakes" " (along with people like Chalabi "a really
> really nice guy..!!") that I seriously think Barbara Bush may have
> mystically invaded his body late one night after he dozed off to
> columnist-land.
>
> It appears that Hitchens is of the ilk that believes that "we" have done

> the right thing by invading a country, Iraq, which we already had so sewn
> up with no-fly zones that a mosquito couldn't move without us noticing it,
> while bolstering al-Qaeda's and bin-Laden's worldwide credibility and
> prominence in the process as they sit in Pakistan under a tent with a cool
> breeze flowing through it sipping sweet tea.
>
> It also appears that he considers "our" efforts of using "Diplomacy With A
> Bullet" to "Bring Democracy Firmly To The Middle East" are working and
that
> we should just sweep across the entire Middle East and democratize
> "everybody" while we "have the chance".
>
> And re-instate Chalabi as the leader of Iraq in the process.
>
> Trust "us", Hitchens, the "chance" is always there.  We'll try not to
> disappoint you.
>
>
> Poor Michael Moore.
>
> With "enemies" like Hitchens, your success is guaranteed forever in the
future.
>
> Thanks again for making the movie, Mike, mistakes and all.
>
> Something Hitchens will only dream about doing for some time to come......
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheeseburger
>
> - Where has the sparrow gone now that I need its song.
>
> .
>
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