[Mb-civic] !!!!!!

[Lyle K'ang]

It will be a longer time for you when you will want and recognize true peace. Thinking in one dimension levels at best tends to distill the true meaning of brother hood and revelation. Revelation for some is actual daily practice for others.

Just because you are not there do not be insensitive to others and their advanced state as they look deeper and further their journey by going through the steps to advance even further. 

If you told me that you watched a plant breathe as Barbara has done-most people would think that to be a rediculous statement and ridicule those that have had the ultimate experience.

That's the trouble with our world and the reason many islanders such as the Indian and Hawaiian people hold close to their experiences because experience has showed them that in reality, most people 'speak with a forked tongue', and like the American Indian tribes, found that they too had to hold close their revelations simply because most people do not understand.

Is this your case? You speak in riddles and boil experiences down to simplistic labels which are not true. You think that duality means there may exist something evil. Is this a good and evil discussion? No it is not. If you remember, there has always been a duality and it is not good or evil. That is religion speaking through you, and religion is man made and full of holes-period.

To talk of the spirit saying there is only one spirit is also elementary and trivial. You my friend, have more steps to go through. Many more hills to climb...

Peace, 
Lyle



-- "Ian" <ialterman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
Robin:

Thank you for the kind words.  If anything I do helps to further a
discourse, or get people to think - or even better (as Mary Louise
suggests), feel - then I am thrilled and humbled to have done so.  I was
just concerned that the discussion would "devolve" into something of a mess
(and a non-political one at that), and I would have felt responsible had it
done so.

As I'm sure everyone has noticed by now, there is a reason that I end all my
e-mails with

Peace.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin McNamara" <olhippie at tampabay.rr.com>
To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] !!!!!!


> Wow this is getting heavy great stuff from all,  I love it. Hey Ian if
> nothing else look what you have done, you have caused some serious in
depth
> discussion on God, self examination, inner peace, etc. etc.in the last
week
> or so & that is not a bad thing at all, it is a good thing.
>
> Peace
> Robin
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lyle K'ang" <lyve at netzero.com>
> To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 4:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] !!!!!!
>
>
> >
> > It is 2 and it is over 2,000 years old-it is Chinese and no I don't
> smoke-thank you. Remember it is not religion.
> > Don't you remember the ID...that is a small self, your subconscious is
> another, your higher self is still another.
> >
> > Come on buddy catch up, roll bigger ONE's :-)
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lyle K'ang
> > COO
> > Lyve-Oasis
> >
> > -- Cheeseburger <maxfury at granderiver.net> wrote:
> > Re:  !!!!!!
> >
> >
> > =======
> > I feel I should give a critique for anyone interested.
> >
> > Whether or not the author was intentionally going on this path,
> > nevertheless what has emerged is an interpretation and creation of what
> > duality is.
> >
> > It is a belief that inside of everyone there is a total like being,
> > opposite but in parrallel with your journey.
> >
> > It is the growth of intelligence, taking the small self, to meet the
> larger
> > and higher self, where together they meet their true being.
> >
> > Separated most of their earhtly existence, these dual personalities have
> > tried to become one and have resisted change, right in our own bodies.
> > Because of conscious awareness, elevation of thought, the once separate
> > existence become inseparable as a body of spirit.
> >
> > There is NO religion, no boundaries but the oneness of human-kind. Once
> > experienced, the life of spirit changes into the life of human-kind,
which
> > changes to natural entities. Natural entities are the spirits of nature.
> > These spirits guide our way-for their is no life without the natural.
> >
> > Therefore, we are nature and in nature we find our longevity, natural
> > human-kind, togetherness, oneness forever...
> > =======
> >
> >
> > I'd like to view that thing, but I can't either, Barb, hehe.....  :(
> >
> > Those, above, are nice theories ("beliefs").  One more among a ton of
> > them.  Maybe that one is "The Real Reality", maybe another, I dunno....
I
> > often guess a lot like the rest of existence has for eons.
> >
> > This is what my gut reaction to living in the corporeal being for some
> time
> > tells me though:
> >
> > One body per person.    One "spirit" per person.
> >
> > We are  =Individuals=.
> >
> > Duality, parallel but opposite spirit, 3 mints in 1 - 1. small self  2.
> > large self  3. true being - dual personalities, etc....?
> >
> > Probably not.
> >
> > One body, one mind, one consciousness, one soul, one spirit.
> >
> > Per person.
> >
> > Anything else in there is An Intruder.  Benign, Guide, Etc or not.
> >
> >  From an external source.
> >
> > If you look in the mirror and see more than one person in there, you're
> > probably being used as a Taxi Cab by someone looking for a lift or a
human
> > apartment to rent, or just take over.
> >
> > Try to remember that the next time you feel you have internal but
parallel
> > "entities" vying for air time.
> >
> > Why our "consciousnesses" are put into these "natural corporeal beings",
I
> > have no idea.  There are already a million theories on that.  How and
why
> > we got here, what we are doing here, how it all works and fits together,
> > and where we are going.
> >
> > All I know is that if you look in the mirror and see more than one
> "person"
> > in there, doing whatever they're doing, you most likely have uninvited
> company.
> >
> > Roll the doobs a little thinner next time.......
> >
> > On the other hand, if you don't really mind the Sacrosanct Individual
> Space
> > which unquestionably and singly makes up the entire crux of your True
> > Existence, your Individual spirit, soul, mind, consciousness, "levels of
> > experience cum intelligence", Being, what have you, being invaded,
> parleyed
> > to, brought into discussions, co-habitated with, "observed", and
possibly
> > even manipulated beyond your own comprehension, roll the doobs a little
> > thicker next time and ignore all the above I have just written.
> >
> > At that point it won't really matter whether you believe me or not.
> >
> > :|
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheeseburger
> >
> > - Where has the sparrow gone now that I need its song.
> >
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