[Mb-civic] Sniffing The Devil

[Ian]

Cheeseburger:

As noted to Barbara, I assumed that the use of "LOL"'s in my post would make
it clear that I was kidding around.  I'm sorry you took me seriously despite
that.

That said, I, for one, am glad to have heard your story, since I was
apparently not around at the time you first shared it, and I, too, have been
curious (yes, it killed the cat, but "satisfaction brought him back") about
it.

You certainly have no obligation to "prove" anything to me or anyone else,
but I am nevertheless extremely touched by your story.  I know you have
often talked of the "personal hell" (and societal "hell") you live in.  And
although, again, you have no obligation to "explain yourself" to anyone, it
certainly helps me to understand and, to at least a small degree, "know" you
better in knowing your story.

I wish you nothing but the best.

Peace.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheeseburger" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
To: "mb-civic" <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:08 AM
Subject: [Mb-civic] Sniffing The Devil


> Re:  Sniffing The Devil
>
>
> Ian wrote:
>
> =====
> Apparently, Cheesburger never actually came down from his last trip, and
> he's stuck in an alternate universe somewhere (LOL).  I doubt you will
ever
> get a straight answer out of him - except perhaps when his own worldview
is
> challenged too severely, especially by "faith-based" types like me...LOL
> ======
>
>
> Ian,
>
> The second to last time I tripped, I was walking in Manhattan on a
Saturday
> night, I often like to trip and then arrive at the heaviest rock clubs
like
> Max's Kansas City exactly at midnight on a Saturday for some reason, I was
> walking east on like 18th? street (whichever one goes east, I've
forgotten)
> and I stopped for some reason, faced south, looked at the building, and a
> hole opened up in the building and I was able to see through the entire
> block to the cars parked and going by on the next street south, I walked
> around the corner and down the block to verify the colors and makes of the
> cars just to make sure I wasn't doing something expected like
"hallucinating
> and imagining", it was then I realized, not just then, but that was
> definitely a clue that something else was going on on this planet other
than
> just what we see.  To relate that experience to others remains a complete
> impossibility, especially for someone who has never had anything stronger
> than coffee or beer.  It's like trying to explain to some peasant in the
> Ural mountains what peanut butter tastes like when he has never seen a
> peanut in his life, he curses you, calls you a liar, and walks away and
> tells everyone else.  The last time I did something like that, it was
night,
> in Manhattan, I had been out, I came home to my apartment, I looked out
the
> window, I saw a dark spirit type spirit of darkness flitting from rooftop
to
> rooftop, I closed the window, got into bed, and pulled the covers over my
> head, I felt strange, I pulled the covers off of my head, the being was
> sitting on the end of my bed wondering "how the f*ck can I get into this
> guy", I pulled the covers back over my head.  I've never touched that
stuff
> since, since I realized that it truly is a "gateway" into "another world"
> and if one is not totally prepared for one meets when one opens that door,
> one should not open the door to begin with.
>
> My "world view" is basically that this is a prison planet.
>
> Whether it is aliens, the devil and his minions, dead people's spirits
that
> have gone before, governments, secret societies, technology, or a
> combination of all or some of the above, we are prisoners here in a
reality
> which we exist in where most of us have apparently been de-evolutionized
to
> prevent us from whatever it is whomever wishes to prevent us from doing.
> Like maybe existing in The Truth and Light, rather than Lies and Darkness.
>
> As far as "faith based" stuff, I dunno, I believe in such things as
"Faith".
>
> I just don't believe that organizations based in "faith based" things
should
> run around decimating everyone else because their faith is not based in
the
> same basics as they profess.
>
> That's part of this imprisonment that I'm rather sure the overlords of
> darkness enjoy thoroughly every second of our measly existence.
>
> Try to remember that as you might place me, the boxer standing in the
> clearing facing down all of oblivion, in a little cubbyhole.
>
> I also would, personally, advise *anyone* involved in any faith-based kind
> of things, to *really* try your d*mnedest to make sure you know *exactly*
> who is whispering sweet nothings in your ear that appear to be pleasing to
> you.
>
> For all you know, in this world of illusions, frame ups, set ups, baitings
> and etc's, it could actually be anyone.
>
> If one chooses to believe it is only *one* specific good being who is
doing
> the whispering, one can only hope that you make d*mn sure, from more than
> one measly angle, that you know *exactly* who it is, before you put it on
> top of the rest of our heads.
>
> As far as Christ goes, who knows, he might actually be "the one".  The
> "story" might really be "all true" for all I know.
>
> I doubt seriously, however, that a deified being of such magnanimous and
> compassionate stature, after 2000 years of being able to reflect on it,
> would stick by his guns saying everyone who didn't believe in him as the
> *sole* saviour of mankind etc etc etc, was going to burn in the lakes of
> fire in Hell.
>
> In fact, at this late date, I'm rather sure of it.
>
> As an old acquaintance once told me "Ignorance is bliss".
>
> There are apparently a lot of really really *really* blissed out people on
> this planet apparently.
>
> A majority of them casting all their eggs into a giant basket called
> "Faith".
>
> The results of their "Faith" vary.
>
> One can only hope for Light and Enlightenment and Awakenings to begin to
> occur on this earth at an increasingly faster rate of development.
>
> At the rate the Darkness and Illusions have been developing and
progressing
> for centuries, along with the help they have received from various unnamed
> entities, the picture remains not that sunny, faith or no faith.
>
> Fight the good fight, Ian, whether we agree on tidbits or not.
>
> Surely you have been able to personally view the "imprisonment" up close
and
> determine its vastness at this late juncture of events.
>
> If not, here, take this little purple thing, it'll zing you right up to
> speed...
>
> :)
>
> In the meantime, I just put up another post here which will hopefully be
> more full of "straight answers", although I often feel debased from having
> to come down from my high of emulating the "silliness" of such people like
> Lennon and have to give "straight answers" in a world of madness, death
and
> destruction ruled by psychotics.
>
>
>
>
> Cheeseburger
>
> .
>
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