[Mb-civic] The return of the draft

[richard haase]

i waso getting so senile i forgot for a second that al baraka and alexander
were the same person; ill stop smoking by the time im 50, no 55
no...................
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheeseburger" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
To: "mb-civic" <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:35 AM
Subject: [Mb-civic] The return of the draft


> Re:  The return of the draft
>
>
> Al Baraka wrote:
>
> =======
> That would be great, Cheese, but how do we get there from the bloody mess
we
> are in now? What pragmatic steps can be taken? Just about all the
> contributors to MBC knew that Bush, Blair et al were lying to us from the
> start (ie before the Iraq war and indeed about just about everything else
> ever since) and we foresaw pretty clearly the consequences of their
> wickedness and the situation we are now in and a fat lot of good it did us
> and the millions of people around the world who thought the same way. Bush
> was reelected on 2 nov 2004 and Blair looks certain to be reelected in the
> UK in May 2005. We all believe we can see the problem and you for one
write
> very movingly about it - so how are we going start solving it? It is
pretty
> complicated - this particular onion has many many skins.
> =======
>
>
>
>
> Ok, I'll step down for a moment from my relatively useless inflammatory
> rhetoric that millions of people are spouting just like me around the
> planet, and go for the gusto and punch up a Real Solution.
>
> Hmmm...  Ok, you got me on that one, there ain't a solution.
>
> LOL........
>
> In America, at least, we are living under a relatively hunkered down
> Military Industrial Dictatorship that could care less if we want a Draft
> brought back or not, as they need foot soldiers to secure various arenas
in
> the new global conquest game.
>
> So we're basically probably going to have a Draft, and already have a Back
> Door Draft as they refer to it, with even current military personnel
> currently suing our government for breach of contract as they just keep
> extending their enlistment unlawfully.
>
> Add to that, that we have a party calling themselves "Republicans" who
have
> basically been hoping to turn back the clock to the early 1900's where
> robber barons ruled the world unchallenged, and such things as rights,
> votes, welfare of people children etc were basically nonexistent.
>
> And it all tied together in one big neat bundle means they can just about
do
> anything they want.
>
> The only *real* solution to things such as not desiring a New Draft and
how
> to avoid it, is to get about 10 million people and march on Washington
D.C.
> in protest.
>
> However, given that we cannot *organize* a 10 million person protest march
> on D.C. currently, that offers little hope until the Draft legislation
> actually hits the table firmly in Congress, and then maybe at *that* late
> date, people will start *really* organizing "in protest".
>
> Americans always wait until *after* the fact about so many things to
squeak
> up, and, just like now, after the fact, it is usually too late.
>
> But, hey, I could keep typing this crap until the sun goes down, and we
> would be no closer to "A Real Solution" than at the time I began typing
it.
>
> But I will typing anyway.  Useless or not.
>
> Let's again look at the Facts, though, just to clear my mind.
>
> We're under a military industrial dictatorship.
>
> We invaded Afghanistan, which supplies 90 percent of all heroin to Europe
> and England, to put people in power who give a rat's *ss about Afghanis,
> while regular Afghanis are dying in hovels in the slums there after being
> invited back by "the new guys".
>
> Score one major great victory for America right there.  If the poppies
that
> make heroin weren't there, and we weren't going to get a piece of that
drug
> money pie under the table in the process, we probably wouldn't have
bothered
> going after something called the Taliban.
>
> We invaded Iraq, spent about a half a trillion dollars almost between the
2,
> basically accomplished nothing except to piss off a whole lot of people
and
> make them even more adamant in their "Anti-American" stances, and are now
> spreading ourselves militarily thin and need more personnel to, among
other
> things, man those neat 14 permanent military bases we have already started
> construction on in Iraq, as we send drones into Iran as scouts, preparing
> for an invasion of that country with the aid of Israel, or visa versa.
>
> We're going to need *lots* more military personnel for that one also.
>
> Ok, so now that we've established that A New Draft will *definitely*
arrive
> in one form or another, as we are currently under a Government that
controls
> the House, the Senate, the White House, most of The Supreme Court, the
> Department of Justice, Etc, and is currently overseas invaded whomever in
> The Middle East that has oil underground who is stupid enough to let us
> undermine what little credibility they have in the international
community,
> there's probably not much anyone can really do to avoid a Draft in the
> coming future.
>
> Bush will be in office until when, 2009...?   Geez, that *certainly* seems
> like a long time, doesn't it.
>
> By then we will be so deeply embroiled in various wars in The Middle East,
> that whomever inherits it won't be able to *not* continue a Draft without
> simply abandoning our military arenas on all fronts and simply pull our
kids
> back home.
>
> We are so broke *already*, that kids of The Poor are already scrambling
just
> to get *in* to the military, so they can have an income other than
> McDonalds.
>
> The Solution...?  I don't really know.  A revolution..?  They would just
> call out the storm troopers and they would shoot us all, so there will be
no
> Boston Tea Parties anytime soon coming down the alleys of Freedom.
>
> A 10 million person march..?  That sounds reasonable.  All one has to do
is
> organize it and implement it.  However, since Americans do not *currently*
> see a DRASTIC need to get such a thing together and do it, it remains one
of
> the farthest things from their minds.
>
> Amazing that someone must now re-teach America how to relive the 60's and
> the political activism that was born during and from that pooh poohed era
of
> long hair, pot, and hippie music.
>
> They have their heads in televisions, video games, fast cars, and
> refrigerators.
>
> They forgot that they actually have to fight to keep their Freedoms alive
> here in their own country.
>
> Entrusted their own well being to Capitalist Communists for the most part,
> and are now reaping the results of their own complacency, and their
children
> are paying for it, currently and in the future, by coming back in body
bags.
>
> Solution...?  Probably isn't one.  Most likely 50 years from now there
won't
> even be an Internet as we know it now, the Government will have most
likely
> taken that over by then as well.
>
> The Federalist Society.  Who belongs to that, I forgot.  Scalia, Ashcroft,
> etc etc etc etc etc.
>
> They believe the clock should be turned back to a time where men were men,
> robber barons ruled the world, women were to cook and shut up, and it was
> allright for children to work in the coal mines, especially when the roofs
> of the tunnels were too small for adults.
>
> And they are now in the position to actually make it all happen in
reality.
>
> A new Draft appears to be merely another sore popping to the surface of a
> humongous deadly disease that has eaten what was left of Democracy,
Freedom,
> Rights, etc in America.
>
> If one can NOT wrest the power from the hands of these current
unscrupulous,
> yes, let's call them what they really are, "REPUBLICANS", then getting A
New
> Draft cancelled is impossible.
>
> So, the *real* question is not how to stop a new Draft, but how to remove
> the actual power from these Fascists who basically now run the entire
> Federal Government.
>
> The draft thing will naturally follow the solution of that previous
> question.
>
> How to remove them from Power.
>
> Our forefathers would have had a *real* revolution, as they realized that
> was the *only* way to remove such tyrants, as exampled as their actions
> toward England in their original revolution.
>
> Today, again, however, they will just gun us down like dogs if we get "too
> out of hand", so "revolution" seems just like some nice song on some
Beatles
> album I heard long ago.
>
> Politically remove their Power...?  While they **virtually** control the
> entire Federal Government, that basically remains a complete
impossibility.
>
> So, then.....    What the f*ck options are we really left with.
>
> Well....   Hmmm....   Lemme see....
>
> What did THEY use to build the bedrock of their Power on, other than
> compliant treason from various entities in America, including various
> corporations, judges, medias, etc.
>
> Ah, yes, that's right.      Propaganda.
>
> They used simple Propaganda to eliminate some little thing called The
Truth.
>
> And, the Media, it has become apparent, is in it with them.
>
> Ahhh...  Ok, then that leaves us with *what* weapon as a last resort...?
>
> Propaganda.
>
> Ok, but for sanity's sake, we'll say that for fighting fire with fire,
> Propaganda with Propaganda, whereas they used Lies, Half-Truths, and
> Delusional Bullsh*t for their Propaganda, we will use The Truth.
>
> Ok, so here we have our weapon, if this be the only weapon left available
to
> us, Propaganda, or, The Truth.
>
> Allright, so spreading that takes MONEY.
>
> And that, other than an actual revolution, since political removal of
their
> Power appears impossible at this late date, and a 10 million person march
on
> D.C. would be like trying to get an enemated elephant off the toilet,
> appears to be the closest thing that I can come up with an actual Solution
> from my tiny uneducated brain.
>
> Since most "Administrations'" "criminal activities" are usually, in
America,
> only prosecuted LONG after the Administration leaves office, trying to use
> legal means to unseat them from Power also appears useless, at least in an
> immediate light.
>
> 50 years from now, long after I'm gone, someone might read this and say
> "What is THAT crap?  Throw that garbage on the fire and hand me another
clip
> for the rifle..."
>
> And *that* is where we're heading, as you and so many others now realize.
>
> So, let's see, we've gone over possible Solutions, let's just relist them
> again, for removing THE REPUBLICAN FASCIST PARTY from the Power it
currently
> holds in America and its stranglehold control over the ENTIRE Federal
> Government at this time.
>
> 1.  Political.  Won't work.  We don't have the numbers except for a
> filibuster now and then.
>
> 2.  Legal.  Apparently all the lawyers in America are currently on
> thorazine, and won't sue Administrations, normally, until long after they
> are out of office.  Won't work either.
>
> 3.  Revolution.  No can do.  They will shoot us down like dogs.
>
> 4.  10 million person march on D.C.  Might work.  Can't get Americans to
get
> off their butts, however, to do it until long after the *necessity* for
> doing it has arrived and gone.
>
> 5.  Counter-Propaganda campaign.  Might work if one has the umpteen
millions
> (billions) of dollars made available to them that it would take to engage
> the current Republican Propaganda now firmly in place, with some obscure
> thing called The Truth.  Would have to circumvent the Media who is also
> complicit in the current Treason and Betrayal of America somehow.  Buying
> them off remains an option.  As Hitler or someone said, if you repeat the
> same thing over and over and over to a people, convince them that there
are
> Crisises all around them, and then point at any ignoramus enemy, they will
> throw all their eggs in with you, which is basically how the Republicans
> have managed their Propaganda campaign very nice and tight so far.  Might

> work.  Need the cash and organization and brains to pull it off though.
>
>
> About 25 percent of votes elected Bush in 2001 came from right wing
> Christian nuts who have been progandasized by The Republicans as to
> everything from Gays, to Food Stamps, to Welfare, to Abortion, to
Liberals,
> to Democrats, to Clinton Getting Head In The Oval Office, to You Name It.
> In 2004, the same thing happened, except it was about 50 percent of the
> votes that came from those people, and this time their actual priests
> preached them a sermon based basically on The Political Platform Of The
> Republican Party, on the Sunday before the Tuesday of the Presidential
> Election.
>
> Even if an anti-Propaganda campaign (The Truth) is found to be an
acceptable
> and viable and financeable weapon of choice, *those* particular people
will
> probably not respond whatsoever, as they long ago gave up their common
sense
> for anything spoken by anyone who used the name of Jesus along with it.
>
> That's about 25 million sure votes the Republicans will, most likely,
always
> be able to count on, as they are easily duped into any kind of betrayal of
> Democracy, again, as long as the word "Jesus" is used to frame it with.
>
>
> Other than that, I don't really see any other "solution" hanging around,
> other than "Reaching The People With The Truth", which, again, will take
> LOTS of money, organization, and brain power.  That someone has not
already
> done it astounds me.
>
> Remove their Power, the Wars, and, consequently, any need for A New Draft
> will easily follow.
>
> Convincing "The Military" to give up some of their budgets, powers, and
> secrecy is an entirely different matter, lol, especially since they have
> just spent so much money on so many new toys that can broil your kidneys,
> boil the water under your skin, or put actual thoughts into your cranium.
>
> All put together, The Republicans, with The Military, with The
Corporations,
> with The Media, it looks like one big pile of sh*t, which, again, yes,
> you're right, so many can now plainly see.
>
> A "Solution"...?  Well, if you can't get "The Truth Campaign" off the
> ground, there is always "Revolution" waiting in the wings just waiting for
> some really stupid Americans to dust it off.
>
> While seemingly extremely unpalatable now, 50 years from now, that will be
> the last option left available to anyone.
>
> Or we can just change our name to Palestine and keep pretending.
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheeseburger
>
> .
>
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