[Mb-civic] Re: Mb-civic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 28

Wed Jan 12 06:01:24 PST 2005

Hell, Bear - I thought I had squelched the html. Back to the drawing board. I am using my laptop on the go at the moment so all a bit chaotic.
Al B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Butler" <michael at michaelbutler.com>
To: Civic <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Subject: [Mb-civic] Re: Mb-civic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 28
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:28:55 -0800

> 
> Al Baraka,
> Yours #4, 5, & 7 in this issue 28 of Vol.7 are scrubbed as they are in html.
> I think they are probably worth a read. Could you send them in text?
> Michael
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> > Today's Topics:
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> >  1. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (Barbara Siomos)
> >  2. The Father, Son, and Holy Cheeseburger (maxfury)
> >  3. Re: Re: Mb-civic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 22 HELP FOR 2ND    EX WIFE
> >     (Alexander Harper)
> >  4. Re: Self-Agrandizing? Re: To Lyle or The Wrath of K'ang
> >     (Alexander Harper)
> >  5. Re: but what is also true is if all christians were    like Ian
> >     (Alexander Harper)
> >  6. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (richard haase)
> >  7. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (Alexander Harper)
> >  8. Re: ENOUGH ALREADY!! (Alexander Harper)
> >  9. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (richard haase)
> > 10. Re: Richard-The 'A's have it! (richard haase)
> > 11. also ms nina and tribe i think its only fair if im good    for
> >     awhile my black marks should be erased (richard haase)
> > 12. A Super Message-Thanks (Michael Butler)
> > 13. Re: Sticking D.C. With the Tab (Rhaerther at aol.com)
> > 14. Dean Jumps In (Michael Butler)
> > 15. Alternet: The Conservative Marketing Machine (michael at intrafi.com)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:28:48 -0500
> > From: barbarasiomos38 at webtv.net (Barbara Siomos)
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Richard-The 'A's have it!
> > To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
> > Message-ID: <20475-41E43700-4654 at storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net>
> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Richard...
> >
> > Enough is supposed to mean enough.... seems like YOU are trying to stir
> > things up again. Why?
> > peace,
> > barbara
> >> From: mike at michaeldanso.com(Michael?Danso)
> >> Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 1:23pm
> >> To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
> >> Subject: [Mb-civic] ENOUGH ALREADY!!
> >
> > Hello Everyone. This is a marvelous informational International Forum
> > which has been provided to us all. I hope it is continued to be used
> > wisely. This is my first communicade. Have I addressed it properly?
> >
> > I have been reading the religious gobbledygook and philosophical
> > fartings of so many of you over the past few months that I have FINALLY
> > been prompted to ask that I be permitted to submit and place the
> > following very small and personal concept upon the very messy banquet
> > table set before us all. ( So many uncleared Courses...tsk-tsk..)
> > First, please allow me to clear a small corner space at this Universal
> > Round-Table you have over time so eloquently covered with layer upon
> > layer of Disagreement, Fuss, Sarcasm, Plagiarism, Inner Fears, Vengeful
> > Attitudes, Intellectual Snobbism, Mental, Physical, Emotional and
> > Spiritual Disharmony, Sadness, Lack of Joy, Disillusionment, Forceful
> > Placement of Collective and Personal Egoist Ideologies as well as
> > quotations of and from all and sundry which may suit and fit a
> > particular point but fail the over-all discussion.
> > Ah! After rubbing diligently with all of my Heart at this same spot, I
> > now see the purity of the substance and Space God has provided us to
> > place the parts of ourselves we wish to share with others somehow
> > showing through. What a Glow...
> > I will now place my lovely piece of fresh fruit given to me by The
> > Universe through a very beautiful and wise Grandmother. It is a simple
> > fruit which not only bursts with delightful flavor but is nourishing and
> > regenerative as well. Here it is...
> > " THERE IS ONLY GOD EVERYTHING ELSE IS DOGMA "
> > I have carried this fruit in my mind's knapsack all of my life. My Path
> > has taken me all over the planet and still does.
> > I am fortunate in the fact that my Life Experience has allowed me to
> > encounter so many multi-varied peoples, places, things and ways of being
> > that I constantly take time and wonder at it all as I make my way
> > through. When I see the positive and negatives I and others experience,
> > I try to take as active a part as I can to positively influence the
> > occasion, and reach back and take another bite and am regenerated. Try
> > it. Pare away everything you think you know and then see what is left.
> > Time to end this communicade. I hope you find it informative,
> > interesting and useful. If you use your ego as a positive tool, you
> > will. Meanwhile, I am going out this afternoon to a rehearsal of a
> > musical one man show I have written. I will put on my warmest coat,
> > sweater, scarf and shoes because it is snowing outside. I will close my
> > front door and walk down the street breathing in the air, hopefully hear
> > a bird ( if it is a pigeon cooing, so be it )look up at a gray-blue sky
> > and hopefully no Gull will inadvertently "sigh with relief" as it passes
> > overhead ( smile ) and try to catch a snowflake on my tongue. Some of
> > the grass will be green: a dandelion or two will be welcomed and Trees
> > will wear their thick, brown winter bark..
> > I will make sure that two things will definitely happen on my walk: The
> > first will be that I will in some way Thank God for all of these simple
> > pleasures I am being allowed to experience. The second is that I will
> > intentionally smile into the eyes of the first Bi-pedal Humanoid
> > Carbon-based Creature I see ...( 'Human' for short...I am such a Leo!
> > ...and toss as much Psychic Joy I can into their gaze just to share the
> > warm glow of Living Here and Now together.
> >
> > As Lyle has said: " Peace " I am
> >
> > Michael Danso Go to www.michaeldanso.com site for Contact information.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:32:17 -0600
> > From: "maxfury" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
> > Subject: [Mb-civic] The Father, Son, and Holy Cheeseburger
> > To: <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> > Message-ID: <000a01c4f81c$a57816a0$7a25b7d8 at baby1>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > The Father, Son, and Holy Cheeseburger
> >
> >
> >
> > What a trip it is skimming through Hell here.  Who knows, maybe 
> > as the guy who
> > was giving my battery a jump in the supermarket parking lot in my little town
> > here who suddenly started talking like the entire Civic List in person stated
> > maybe this *is* Hell.  He smiled, took the cables off the battery, and then
> > left.
> >
> > Who knows whether he is right or not, however he is not the first complete
> > stranger throughout the years who has walked up to me out of the blue under
> > one circumstance or the other and blurted out "What if this really *is* Hell,
> > Cheeseburger...".
> >
> > I always think about those people, now and then, as during the brief
> > conversations we have, their knowledge of the world and a vast amount of
> > subjects seem almost unsurpassed in quality, and then their closing statement
> > always puts that red hot cherry on top of their apparent versedness.
> >
> > And then I go on my merry little way, observing the world.  As I observe, it
> > looks more and more like "Hell" the more I see.  LOL.
> >
> > Oh well, right after I was talking about Jeb Bush going into Tsunami land to
> > get some fake humanitarian credentials for future political purposes, my hard
> > drive died.  I had sent that, and had just finished and sent an email to an
> > old acquaintance who was enquiring how I was holding up after being forced
> > into abject poverty and bankruptcy by taking care of my dying mother every
> > night for 2 months as she went to heaven, and I replied that it wasn't going
> > so well, I was still on foodstamps, unable to keep the utilities from going
> > off now and then, and that the crying of the cats and dogs left in my care by
> > my best friend and parents when I ran out of food was starting to get to me
> > and that it wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't have ripped off most of the
> > estate after mother went and left me to die with all the bills, and it would
> > have been much better if all the rumors in this backstabbing gossipy little
> > town that I had been fucking my best friend in the whole world, a woman in!
> > her 90's, and married her to swindle her out of her property, and that I had
> > murdered both my parents and was dealing heroin to the elementary school
> > children here hadn't have been reprinted by my cousin who works 
> > for the CIA or
> > someone in his autobiography and sent around the world with my name attached
> > to it.
> >
> > But that I could live with it, just as I have been living with it 
> > for the last
> > 18 months since mother went to heaven.  I hadn't told her yet that on top of
> > all that, the tip of the iceberg, that yesterday I was over seeing some old
> > friend of mine trying to get my computer fixed and their father came out and
> > told me to take that thing off the pole (the giant american flag I fly on a
> > pole on the back of my 30 year old rickety pickup for my father who was a vet
> > and the 911 victims etc) and get that truck off his property and 
> > never show my
> > face around there anymore.  It seems that on top of all the other 
> > great things
> > that I am not but which other people seem to find it necessary to label and
> > blame me with, I am unpatriotic for flying an american flag on my vehicle
> > because I am not sitting in a wheelchair with all my arms and legs amputated
> > from being wounded in WWII or Vietnam.
> >
> > I related to my friend by email that I didn't feel so bad sometimes, even
> > though I have lost 25 pounds from malnutrition, and that it was good I was so
> > sane as I could mark the progress step by step that lack of good food does to
> > the higher and other brain functions day by day, as I could look around the
> > world, and even in this little crappy backstabbing town, and see people much
> > worse off than myself, such as the Tsunami victims.
> >
> > She then begged me to relate to her the name of the superstar millionaire who
> > supposedly had an affair with my mother and hatched me that a woman called me
> > up out of the blue 2 months after mother died and told me that story.
> > Actually, the woman began by asking me if I knew where I got my name from, I
> > said no, she said "Your name was the name of my son whom your mother adored,
> > he was a medic in WWII and someone cried "Medic!!" on the battlefield
> > somewhere in Europe and my son rushed out to save the american gi and the
> > nazis shot him in the head, when he died your mother named you after him, I
> > was your mother's best friend, I held you in my arms when you were just a
> > baby, by the way, do you know who your real father was...?"
> >
> > Well, needless to say, I was still reeling from my mother's 
> > death, and to hear
> > that come from some lady's mouth who said she was my mother's 
> > best friend, had
> > held me in her arms as a baby, and I was named after her dead son, 2 months
> > after mother went to heaven was quite interesting.  I still wonder about it.
> > And there is no one alive to confirm it, or those who could, won't.  She
> > wouldn't tell me his name out right, but asked me if I was the son in the
> > family with all the musical talent, instruments, vocals, etc, I replied yes,
> > she then asked if I had seen a certain commercial on television about a
> > certain product, I said yes, she said "That's him, that's your real father".
> > She then said "So if you wonder why your brothers had treated you like crap
> > your whole life and left you to die, it was because not only were you only
> > their half brother and your father was magnanimous enough to take you in
> > instead of putting you in an orphanage, but your mother walked 
> > around with you
> > !
> > and told everyone "This is my favorite son" always."
> >
> > I contacted the millionaire superstar by email (actually usually you can't
> > reach millionaire superstars, you reach their secretaries), and I related the
> > story the woman had told me, and asked for confirmation, they got back to me
> > once, and I never heard from them again.  I'm probably under federal
> > investigation now or something for "harrassing a superstar millionaire", LOL.
> >
> > Anyway, 18 months after mother has gone, I still sit here and wonder.  On top
> > of all the vicious rumors, I remember the stories that 2 women 
> > here related to
> > me a few weeks before they went to heaven, they sat me down and said they
> > wanted to talk to me, and then asked if I remembered any of my childhood, I
> > replied no that it was completely wiped from my brain for the most part, they
> > replied that that was most likely because you were severely 
> > beaten as a child,
> > forced to sit 2 inches in front of the television for hours dressed in your
> > sunday finest, and then locked in a closet until you stopped screaming and
> > someone finally came and let you out, and that you would go to school as a
> > child and all the teachers and nurses would rush up to you and asked you what
> > happened because all your arms and legs were covered with black and brown
> > giant bruises everywhere and you would reply each time "Oh, I just fell down"
> > and nobody would blink.  I never knew those stories, those 2 women we!
> > re one who gave me my first job here and the 2nd was like my aunt 
> > or something
> > who was a surrogate mother now and then when my mother was in an asylum
> > getting shock therapy, who later due to my sole efforts from a pay phone in
> > Manhattan I was able to finally force them to get a 2nd doctor's opinion
> > before just throwing mother away again (40 years of shock therapy, oh boy),
> > and they determined she was never "crazy" but had a simple severe thyroid
> > gland deficiency.
> >
> > Well, anyway, after I sent that email to my friend, the exact second after I
> > sent it, my computer exploded.
> >
> > That's why you haven't heard from me in a while.
> >
> > Is this "Hell"..?  Is there a "God"...?
> >
> > Uhhh.......    LOL............
> >
> > How the fuck would I know.  LOL..........
> >
> > Let me put it like this, though.  The extremes between the "good" and the
> > "bad" on this planet are so vast, that if this is not "Hell", then we are
> > definitely under an "occupation force" of one sort or another.
> >
> > Aliens?  Ghosts of those gone before here on Earth?  Scientists from the
> > Future with time machines?  The "Devil" and his minions?  An invisible race
> > that has lived here forever?  Uhhh....  Take your pick, or make one up
> > yourself.
> >
> > However you slice it, it is not simply chance, coincidence, and the natural
> > order of things that envelops this planet, inbetween the rays of sunshine,
> > with chaos, destruction, death, and darkness.
> >
> > I am now typing from an old laptop of mine I was finally able to get up.
> >
> > This should be a good example for The New World Order why poor people should
> > not be allowed access to computers and the Internet.
> >
> > And how was *your* weekend.....?
> >
> > In closing, I offer a little prayer.  Dear God, whoever you are, please fuck
> > up all the bastards and bitches of the world who make our lives 
> > miserable with
> > willful malice and other things, and protect us from all the things that go
> > bump in the night that you were too drunk to lock up when you made them.  If
> > we're going to endlessly suffer here, at least give us some 
> > fucking weapons to
> > defend ourselves with.
> >
> > Thank you.  Your pal,.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheeseburger
> >
> > - No, no, honest, it's nothing, just go back to sleep, you're only
> > dreaming..........
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:48:53 -0300
> > From: "Alexander Harper" <harperalexander at mail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Re: Mb-civic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 22 HELP FOR
> > 2ND    EX WIFE
> > To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
> > Message-ID: <20050111204854.2B4D34BE65 at ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I imagine they can be configured to work in the USA, Bear. I guest it is just
> > a matter of cutting the right size hole in the bottom where the switch goes.
> > I will check with  2ex.
> >
> > Love
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Butler" <michael at michaelbutler.com>
> > To: Civic <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
> > Subject: [Mb-civic] Re: Mb-civic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 22 HELP FOR 2ND EX WIFE
> > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:30:25 -0800
> >
> >>
> >> Al Baraka,
> >> Hit their website.
> >> Don?t know if they will wok in the USA
> >> Advise
> >> Anything for the family
> >> Bear
> >>
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