[Mb-civic] To: Ian re: Native Culture

[Lyle K'ang]

...wondeful, just so wonderful. To think that we can come together at last on a spiritual venue enlightens me and increases my light, my hope, that as a planet we can change.

I am gladdened to hear about Ian's experiences with his studies and direction-you know it makes a lot of sense how each one of us transfers our belief systems by what we experience.

Perhaps, the earlier caravan movement and 'west-ward, ho!' migration would have been a lot better had the Cavalry not preceded the movement...but it did not happen that way-the mass movement happened with a lot of cruelty and killing.

Barbara, I do hope, that you, MB, Ian and others live to see the day-again when miracles truly happen before our eyes and an American is exonerated and found not guilty for the FBI deaths...that it was a conspiracy perpetuated by our government to further drive the wedges of hate and brutality deeper into America's psyche.


Lyle Kekahi K'ang, MBA/IM 
http://silomanagement.blogspot.com/
http://lyve-oasis.com

-- "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38 at msn.com> wrote:
Ian, thank you so much for the details of the additional uses of the Buffalo and other info... I truly appreciate your interest and the chance for myself to learn more about a subject that fascinates me.... 

IF there is reincarnation I was a Native American in my past life. Once while walking through the woods barefoot going down a hill and nearing a rapidly moving creek it was said about me,  "Look man she's a G__ D___ Indian".... :-)

peace and much love,
barbara


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian
Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:15:37 -0700
To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Fw: Leonard Peltier Transferred to Terre Haute - IMMEDI ATE ACTION REQUESTED

Barbara:

Don't forget the use of bones for tools, combs, etc., and sinews for tieing 
things.  And whatever was left over was given to the medicine man for use in 
rituals.  Thus, the ENTIRE animal was put to good use.

In addition, the Native American "Great Spirit" belief system is among the 
two or three oldest in the world (along with the Dreamtime belief of the 
Australian aborigines and, possibly, the original pre-Shinto faith).  That 
belief, as many of us know, was quasi-animistic, believing that almost 
everything on the planet - including the planet itself - has a "soul."  That 
belief, in turn, gives rise to a reverence for ALL things.  The Native 
Americans did not even kill the buffalo (with a spear or arrows, not guns) 
until they had said a prayer for its soul.  And they did not "rape and 
pillage" Mother Earth; they gave back (i.e., replanted, repaired, etc.) 
whatever they took.

And we have the unmitigated arrogance to claim that their belief system was 
"primitive"?!?!?!

When I was in college, one of my professors (who was one of those "trembling 
geniuses") one said, "The fall of animism was the cause of all of the 
world's ecological problems."  It took my 18-year-old mind a few minutes to 
"get around" that statement, but when I did I realized it was true.  The 
minute we stopped believing (as the Native Americans do) that EVERYTHING has 
a "soul" (or "spirit" or whatever you want to call it), we feel perfectly 
justified in abusing or damaging it without a second thought.  Thus, we 
pollute our land, air and water, and rape and pillage the earth for natural 
resources without making even a half-hearted attemp to "give anything back," 
much less repair the damage we cause.

Sorry for the rant.  But I am "steeped" in Native American belief and 
tradition not only as a result of my own study, but because I am close 
friends with a Native American medicine man (from an Alaskan tribe) and a 
Native American "pipe carrier" (from the Lakota Sioux tribe), both of whom I 
have had many, many lengthy conversations with.  Indeed, had things been 
different for me, I might well have become a devotee of the Great Spirit 
belief system, since it is arguably the humblest, most truly "understanding" 
(in the macrocosmic sense) belief system in the world.

Peace.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38 at msn.com>
To: "Lyle K'ang" <lyve at netzero.com>; <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Fw: Leonard Peltier Transferred to Terre Haute - 
IMMEDI ATE ACTION REQUESTED


> You are so righteous Lyle... :-)
>
> Think about how our Native People used to make use of just one Buffalo. 
> Hide for Teepee after skinning Fur for warmth and meat for survival as 
> well as other uses.... Sometimes you might see a movie about how the white 
> man when they hunted for Buffalo used to leave the carcass to rot on the 
> plains after taking only the fur to sell.
>
> Aaargh!!! That was so long ago but still what our country did to OUR 
> Native People is atrocious and I still cry for Leonard the fighter and His 
> People.
>
> Thanks for your Spirit Lyle. :-)
>
> peace,
> barbara
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lyle K'ang
> Sent: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:27:56 -0700
> To: mb-civic at islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-civic] Fw: Leonard Peltier Transferred to Terre Haute - 
> IMMEDI ATE ACTION REQUESTED
>
>
> mine was brief-sent out today:
>
> RE: LEONARD PELTIER;
>
> BRING THIS MAN TO TRIAL BECAUSE OF NEW EVIDENCE.
> STOP THE SUPPRESSION OF HIS RIGHTS AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
>
> PROVIDE AN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL TO LOOK INTO ALLEGATIONS AND FBI
> MISTREATMENTS-NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lyle Kekahi K'ang, MBA/IM
>
> #####################################
>
> What others should know about this moving of prisoners is that it is an 
> atrocitious act and punishment to the families of those incarcerated.
>
> Most of the ethnic population in prison today are blacks, latinos, 
> mexicans-only by sensitive understanding and popular outrage will this 
> ever come to light. Forget about Congress doing something...it is in our 
> hands to 'fight for the oppressed', never mind his guilt or not, it is 
> this moving thing that has got to stop.
>
> Keep the prisoners in the States and let the States take care of them. Get 
> the Federal level out of this-the moving of prisoners is a total hardship 
> on the families-99.99% of the time, the families are innocent but the 
> federal government is now creating future felons by their attitudes and 
> erroneous tactical plans.
>
> Will our government ever grow up and stop this senseless incarcirations 
> and moving them from State to State? ONLY IF THE PEOPLE BRING IT TO 
> LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> PELTIER'S lawyers need to band with the ACLU-The ACLU needs to go after 
> this ONE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> This is tearing our fabric apart, even further...must I say it again, it's 
> not the brown man, red man, yellow man, and black man that need to be 
> corralled, the 'white man' has free rein and he is creating havoc on other 
> people's kids-
>
> Why???? Is He So Afraid?????
>
> He does this throughout the World!!!!!!!!!!! He's buying guns because he's 
> afraid he's going to be attacked. He bombs first, asks stupid questions 
> later...
>
> You have got to understand the American Indian-they are not filthy people 
> They are very family oriented and wish to prosper and live their lives 
> according to their historical, religious and spiritual leadership.
>
> Remember the GatlinG Gun was created, manufactured, and sold to the Army 
> for the soul purpose of irradicating this brown-skinned beast. Beastly 
> acts were created by the British as they skinned the savages while still 
> alive-thus red skin. Don't believe the movies-Indians are cool people, 
> really smart and a loving people.
>
> They are your brothers and sisters, just as the African Nation is...IF you 
> don't take care of them-their children, their prosperity, YOU will answer 
> to those people whom you offend-I'll be there as a witness.
>
> Never in my life have I ever witnessed a more cruel people than the WHITE 
> MAN of which I AM 50%. My other 50% tells me so...so, you 100%er's have no 
> clue-unless you are endowed with that special calling from a God you call 
> your own which giveth you the eyes to see and the heart to feel, grow and 
> realize, your sensitive touch.
>
> There is a reason to be sensitive-to cry out again....never mind how WE 
> failed the sixties-WE have experiences that are crucial now for successful 
> integration and collapse of old regimes.
>
> PASS THE Baton-steady-pass, careful-GOOD! Life is worth ALL of this-SEE 
> YOU IN THE EVERLASTING GLOW OF ETERNITY MY FRIEND-MY TRUE FRIENDS!!!!
>
> I GO SOON TO WITNESS-TO BEAR FRUITS AND COME AGAIN INTO MANY DIFFERENT 
> WORLD'S, HERETOFORE CREATED...may I see your bright face again...
>
> FREE YOURSELF-CRY OUT ABOUT WHO THEY'RE INCARCERATING WITH EVER GROWING 
> NUMBERS!!!!
>
> YOU BELIEVE IN GOD-
> GOD WOMAN,
> GOD MAN,
> GOD THE FATHER-
>
> SUPREME CREATOR OF THIS UNIVERSE, UNIVERSES PAST AND OTHERS TO FOLLOW-YOU 
> WILL LIVE ON-
>
> MAKE THIS YOUR LAST STAND!!!!!
>
> Peace and LOVE,
>
>
> Lyle Kekahi K'ang, MBA/IM
> http://silomanagement.blogspot.com/
>
>
> -- "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38 at msn.com> wrote:
> Please anyone who cares (I know you do Lyle), read the enclosed attachment 
> regarding Leonard Peltier who was transferred unexpectedly and thrown in 
> the hole as is common with transferees. Telephone numbers are enclosed 
> that is best to use to inquire politely.  Leonard's office defense 
> committee e-mail is info at leonardpeltier.org
>
> When you call the Bureau of Prisons re: ideas in attached please be kind 
> and brief it does not help Leonard to be nasty towards those at prison 
> even though we truly are.
>
> Thanks with tears,
> barbara
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