[Mb-civic] Armageddon: The Great Lie Of Jesus Christ -- For All Th eReally Stupid People In The Audience

[Lyle K'ang]

You goofball,

He is not asking, he's telling you-moron. What he is interpreting-he did not ask you to jump in with insensitivity to his discussion-what an egotist.  Your interpretations just bring people down because you continue to perpetuate the 'wrong's' of a church. For a long time, the scriptures have been misaligned and aligned for the churches benefit.

There are no signs-only man's inability to deal with facts that scientists and environmentalists can actually tell you that the earth's warming is real.

The killing off of the Jews is in no way-the last days...it is man's arrogance and hatred again. Religion is concocted by man-man that is so  short-sighted. The man that I have yet to see that actually can stand on a mountain and make men fall to their knees.

This man is few in numbers and he walks amongst us already. I know of some by name, and he is a good friend. I know that except for a very few of you, who belong to this board-most are products of drugs, follow-the- leader, and sometimes speak your mind, trying to open your hearts. Other times, I have met children more wiser, more articulate than many.

Forget the interpretations-it's a no win battle...I live on the other side of the mountain,; a place few have visted because of high cliffs and mystery, but I have lived in your town for almost my whole life. You have yet to visit me.

Where their is arrogance there is opportunity-where have we heard that before-why from Toyota San himself.

Traps? Levers? What are you about? Empty shell hanging on to a religion that has died a long-time ago, with those of us excercising critical thought-but hold truth and true to those that have not yet experienced God's true voice and freedom. God is me-God is you. God is not out there-No such thing. He should be in your own truth-your heart.

Why is there always something outside of us that will save us? Why can't we save ourselves from ourselves?

Lesson: Even ministers are fools...like it or not! 
Presidents can be false and can spead falsehoods so why not other men; isn't the President a man?

Religion is not dead for those that seek wisdom and comfort for their own tortured souls. It is only dead for those that have experienced all that God's kingdom can bring and now look for justice by being released to move on upon this earth searching for those that have Peace in their hearts.

Even I have Peace in my heart-though we are at war, children are dying, and again you refuse to let go of your ignorance, arrogance and teachings. I guess you'll be proud of yourseld as you walk into those mystic fires...why don't you journey and test your faith out there, away from common hangouts-go ahead...journey to area of your county were their is more hunger than you ever imagined-oh! yes, different colored skin tints wouldn't really turn you away-would it!

Let's end it here with the familiar sign: Y PEACE
Lyle Kekahi K'ang, MBA/IM 
http://silomanagement.blogspot.com/

-- "Ian" <ialterman at nyc.rr.com> wrote:
Chesseburger:

Actually...you fall into the same trap that so many others do in 
interpreting this passage.  Yet it is really very simple.

The disciples ask "What will be the signs of your return?"  He then tells 
them what the signs will be - but does not infer, in any way, that the 
disciples themselves will see those signs.  Rather, he describes a future 
time when he talks about the sun darkerning, etc.

After describing the signs which will precede His return in a future time, 
he says "Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away before all 
these things take place."

"This generation" does not imply the generation He was speaking to, but 
rather the generation that will see the signs.

Peace.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheeseburger" <maxfury at granderiver.net>
To: "mb-civic" <mb-civic at islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:33 PM
Subject: [Mb-civic] Armageddon: The Great Lie Of Jesus Christ -- For All 
TheReally Stupid People In The Audience


> Armageddon:  The Great Lie Of Jesus Christ -- For All The Really Stupid
> People In The Audience
>
>
>
>
> Before I present this, I would briefly like to state that in the last few
> weeks here at least about one-third of all posts have absolutely nothing 
> in
> them (I access this list from The Internet) but "Attachments" this or 
> that,
> and I am not going to start opening "Attachments".  If people could 
> somehow
> figure out how to put up posts here that actually have information in 
> them,
> or at least a website that shows where the information is they wish to
> convey, other than just "Attachment Scrubbed", that sure would be nice. 
> Of
> course, this conversation has been here before, and apparently people 
> still
> cannot figure out how to send a simple post in any form other than as an
> "Attachment".  Such is life.  I skip over all those posts.  The least 
> people
> could do, if they are interested, is after they send a post here, go on to
> the Internet and access this List from there, and at the very least, see
> what form your post arrived.  Most of you probably have no idea that your
> posts are winding up as "Attachments" and nothing else.  I thought I would
> just remind you.  Gee, personal Cheeseburger gripe night apparently...  It
> would also be nice if there was some way that the Posts here actually had 
> A
> Title, other than "Here is an article from such and such a newspaper", 
> which
> would allow at least people who access this list from The Internet the
> availability to view A Title, and then choose to either open it or not 
> open
> it, depending upon their desire or the fact of whether they have already
> read that article at another location or not, thus saving them a TON of 
> time
> in wasted repetitiveness.  The end.
>
>
> Now on to Jesus Christ and some of his fibs.....
>
> Personally I liked Jesus.  He was a cool guy.  He had the best smoke in 
> all
> of the Middle East and he could just blow on a mosquito bite and it would 
> be
> cured.  An all around good person.  Too bad he didn't take my advice and
> start a revolution though and instead let them hang him on a tree.  Those
> Essenes, heh, they always were really big on practical jokes.  (For the
> really really ignorant, look them up on Google gaga or somewhere).
>
> The particular "fib" I would like to examine here coming out of Jesus' 
> mouth
> way back when, is the one in the book of "Mark" in the New Testament.  I'm
> sure it's in some other books, but this particular passage will suffice 
> for
> the moment.  It starts in Mark chapter 13 and rambles on a while.  I'll 
> just
> put up verse 24 to 27 and verse 30 from that chapter though for our 
> purposes
> and make it brief.  This is Jesus himself talking:
>
> "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and
> the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from 
> heaven,
> and the powers in the heavens wil be shaken.  And then they will see the 
> Son
> of man coming in clouds with great power and glory.  And then he will send
> out the angels, and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of
> the earth to the ends of heaven."
>
> Then in verse 30 he states:
>
> "Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away before all these
> things take place."
>
>
> Ok, now, face it, either Jesus was severely challenged as to his 
> perspective
> of Time itself and how long "One Generation" of people is, or he just flat
> out lied.
>
> Regardless, every Generation before and after he said those words has used
> "The Armageddon Is Just About Upon Us Now" to frighten and control every
> thing, place and person that exists on this planet Earth.  And they're 
> still
> doing it to this very day, except this time they're making millions and
> billions of dollars from doing it, and duping millions and billions of
> people while cashing in on their fear, faith, and expectations.  (It's a
> wonderful thing to have something called Faith.  It's a desecration to 
> have
> Faith in a bunch of Lies, whether one believes and lives by "Ignorance Is
> Bliss" or not.)
>
>
> The *only* loophole in all that above is that "maybe" Armageddon actually
> happened "before that generation" Jesus was speaking to "passed away", and
> what we now perceive here as our "Reality" is nothing short of something
> like either "Purgatory" or "Hell" itself.
>
> Although I doubt, somewhat, the validity of that last sentence being our
> Ultimate Reality at this current time, who knows, stranger things have
> happened.
>
> It would be very funny if we were just living in a Zoetrope after all, and
> viewing it all from the outside, while living it all from the inside, and
> not having a miserable clue about any of it.
>
> Oh well, none of it is "funny".  Just thought I'd pass the words of Jesus
> himself describing how "Armageddon" was to take place before even the 
> people
> he was talking to at the time passed away.
>
> More trivia from The Cheeseburger Vaults.
>
> Have a nice day.    :|
>
>
>
>
> Cheeseburger
>
> .
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