[Mb-civic] FW: This War Is For Real

Michael Butler michael at michaelbutler.com
Thu Sep 8 13:00:44 PDT 2005


 From Tom Hughes

 


Subject: This War Is For Real

 

Wow!  This analysis, [by a retired USAF major general], of the USA's
dilemma in the war on terror is the clearest, most vivid, comprehensive
and realistic assessment of the situation that I have seen to date.
Note that the general's comments were published before events in the UK.
This is stunning stuff. If only our leadership had the spine to look
into the face of reality and act accordingly. What if the President
simply read the general's comments on a national television broadcast?

Read carefully and you will see the pieces unfold right before your eyes
and dead on target.  Doesn't matter if you're a "D" an "R", or an
Independent,

this applies to, and affects us all.  In "my" opinion, a masterful
analysis.....

 

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From: Brig Gen R. Clements USAF ret <mailto:p38bob at deepwell.com>

To: AAGEN&ADM ; Undisclosed Key Military
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Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:13 PM

Subject: This War Is For Real

MG Vernon Chong, USAF ret forwarded:
This WAR is for REAL
 
To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it. Our country
is now
facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that we
have
faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).

The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are
very few
of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize
what
losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1. When did the threat to us start?

Many will say September 11th, 2001. The answer as far as the United
States is
concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September 2001, with the following
attacks
on us: 

. Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
. Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
. Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
. Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
. First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
. Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
. Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
. Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
. Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
. New York World Trade Center 2001;
. Pentagon 2001.

(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581
terrorist
attacks worldwide).

2. Why were we attacked?

Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks
happened during
the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and
Bush 2. We
cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no
provocations
by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors, Presidents
Ford or
Carter. 

3. Who were the attackers?

In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out by Muslims.

4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.

5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?

Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is no doubt that the
predominately Christian population of Germany was peaceful, but under
the
dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no
difference. You either went along with the administration or you were
eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for
political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests). (see
http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm).

Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as
the six
million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of
anything
other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused
on the
Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of
exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian
or any
others. 

Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but
kill all in
the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The
point
here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to
anyone from
the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no
protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are
fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all
of us
"infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the
choice
was shut up or die?

6. So who are we at war with?

There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the
Muslim
terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this
conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't
clearly
recognize and articulate who you are fighting.

So with that background, now to the two major questions:

1. Can we lose this war?

2. What does losing really mean?

If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions.

We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the
major
reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer
to the
second question - What does losing mean?

It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means
hanging
our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business,
like post
Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get. What losing
really means
is: 

We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will
not
subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead,
not
just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have
produced an
increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The
plan was
clearly, for terrorist to attack us, until we were neutered and
submissive to
them. 

We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear
of
reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we are impotent and
cannot
help them. 

They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will
be
increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It
doesn't matter
whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from
Iraq. Spain
did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them to
withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be done.
Spain is
finished. 

The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they
might see
the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in
that they
can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already
be too
late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!

If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will
all
vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us, if
they
were threatened by the Muslims.

If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone else?

The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are
completely
committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise
committed to winning at any cost.

Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple.
Until we
recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of
our
thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100%
effort to
win. 

So, how can we lose the war?

Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That
is,
defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their
purpose, and
really digging in and lending full support to the war effort. If we are
united,
there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is
no way
that we can win! 

Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the
life and
death seriousness of this situation.

President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation.

Although all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men
between 17
and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does
that
sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the
duration, we
are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have become
accustomed
to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights
temporarily or we
will most certainly lose all of them permanently.

And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil
rights
during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact
added
many more since then.

Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?

No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our
Political
Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a
clean,
lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of
your
head. 

Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the
Administration
that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten
to add
that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't
recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the
impression to
the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends,
and it
does great damage to our cause.

Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media
regarding
the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I
am
saying. 

We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim
prisoners
of war, by a small group of our military police.

These are the type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing
their own
people off buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues
and
otherwise murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam
Hussein.

And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed
400,000 of
their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type enemy
fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their
charred
corpses through the streets of Iraq.

And still more recently, the same type enemy that was and is providing
videos to
all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American prisoners
they
held. 

Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several
days have
thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some
Muslim
prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses
through the
streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.

Can this be for real?

The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the
Secretary of
Defense.

If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and
understanding of the
seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death struggle we
are in
and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing can.

To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this
prisoner issue
makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally
oblivious
to what is going on in the real world.

Neither we, nor any other country, can survive this internal strife.

Again I say, this does not mean that some of our politicians or media
people are
disloyal. It simply means that they are absolutely oblivious to the
magnitude,
of the situation we are in and into which the Muslim terrorists have
been
pushing us, for many years.

Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels!
That
translates into all non-Muslims -- not just in the United States, but
throughout
the world.

We are the last bastion of defense.

We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge
is valid
in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are
so good,
powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those
who attack
us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat
anything bad in
the world!

We can't!

If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive,
and no
other free country in the World will survive if we are defeated.

And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow
freedom
of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the
press, equal
rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for
women,
or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the
good of
the world. 

This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or
we will
be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman
Empire.
If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written
or read. 

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims
take
over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase
the
Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little,
on the
established French traditions. The French will be fighting among
themselves,
over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken
them and
keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some
external
military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically
correct
piece by politically correct piece.

And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown,
worldwide, that
they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves,
once they
are in power.

They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then
start
brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the
masses.
Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the
"peaceful
Muslims"? 

I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are
united,
there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election, the
factions in
our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and
will
unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do
whatever
you can to preserve it.

After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but
our
children, our grandchildren, our country and the world.

Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that
includes the
Politicians and media of our country and the free world!

Please forward this to any you feel may want, or NEED to read it. Our
"leaders"
in Congress ought to read it, too.

There are those that find fault with our country, but it is obvious to
anyone
who truly thinks through this, that we must UNITE!

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