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Michael Butler
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Fri Jul 9 14:42:26 PDT 2004
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> 1. T-E-S-T-I-N-G (Barbara Siomos)
> 2. Some HAIR in Southern Jersey (tiogajoe at juno.com)
> 3. Not Feeling Groovy By MAUREEN DOWD - NYTimes (Michael Butler)
> 4. FW: FRANK RICH Sex, Lies and No Chalabi -NYTimes
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> 5. Thank you (Barbara Siomos)
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> From: barbarasiomos38 at webtv.net (Barbara Siomos)
> Subject: [Mb-hair] T-E-S-T-I-N-G
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> From: "tiogajoe at juno.com" <tiogajoe at juno.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Some HAIR in Southern Jersey
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> FYI, I saw this little blurb in the entertainment section of today's
> (July
> 2, 2004) Asbury Park Press newspaper:
>
> "HAIR: The American Tribal Love-Rock Musical": Ocean County College,
> Fine
> Arts Center, College Drive, Dover Township, (732) 255-0500. OCC Theatre
> Company, 8 p.m. Thursdays through Saturdays, July 8-17, 2 p.m. Sunday, July
> 11, signed for the deaf and hearing impaired, July 9; $20.
>
> Me? Man, I think I'll go just to see the sign-language person sign the
> lyrics to "Sodomy" and check out the deaf people's reaction! :)
>
> See you there!
>
> --Tioga Joe
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> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 12:11:52 -0700
> From: Michael Butler <michael at michaelbutler.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Not Feeling Groovy By MAUREEN DOWD - NYTimes
> To: Civic <mb-civic at islandemail.com>, Governance
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> July 4, 2004
> OP-ED COLUMNIST
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> Not Feeling Groovy
> By MAUREEN DOWD
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>
> ASHINGTON ? I didn't appreciate the 60's in high school.
>
> I spurned the unisex style of dirty jeans. I was more under the influence of
> nuns than bongs. And I was frightened of the cost of free love.
>
> But as other decades passed ? the bland, polyester 70's; the greedy,
> padded-shoulder 80's; the materialistic, designer 90's; the bullying, Botox
> 00's ? I've become nostalgic for the idealistic passion of the 60's.
>
> It's amazing, given how far we've come from the spirit of the 60's ? with
> Bob Dylan hawking Victoria's Secret and Hillary Clinton a hawk ? how
> obsessed conservatives still are with pulverizing that decade.
>
> Their disgust with the 60's spurs oxymoronic ? and moronic ? behavior, as
> anti-big-government types conjure up audacious social engineering schemes to
> turn back the clock.
>
> The day after his re-election to the House in 1994, the future speaker, Newt
> Gingrich, jubilantly told me he intended to bury any remnants of the "Great
> Society, counterculture, McGovernik" legacy represented by the morally lax
> Clintons and return America to a more black-and-white view of right and
> wrong.
>
> He said America had slid into "a situation-ethics morality, in which your
> immediate concern about your personal needs outweighs any obligation to
> others."
>
> A decade later, after it came out that Mr. Gingrich had his own affair with
> a young Washington political aide, and he divorced and embarked on his third
> marriage, he would be a top adviser to Donald Rumsfeld when Rummy and Dick
> Cheney decided they wanted to bring back a black-and-white view of right and
> wrong. The old cold warriors thought they could improve the national
> character by invading Iraq ? in that way banishing post-Vietnam ambivalence
> about using force and toughening up what they saw as the Clintonesque 60's
> mentality ? a weak, pinprick-bombing, if-it-feels-good-do-it attitude. Their
> new motto was: If it makes someone else feel bad, do it.
>
> W., who had tuned out during the 60's, preferring frat parties to war
> moratoriums and civil rights marches, and George Jones to "psychedelic"
> Beatles albums, was on board with his regents' retro concerns, like Star
> Wars and Saddam, and outdated cold-war assumptions, like the idea that
> terrorists could thrive only if sponsored by a state.
>
> In his book tour, Bill Clinton has been defending the 60's, noting that the
> polarization of American politics began with the civil rights, women's
> rights, gay rights and abortion rights struggles of the 60's and the
> assassinations of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King. "If you look back
> on the 60's and on balance, you think there was more good than harm, then
> you're probably a Democrat," he told a Chicago audience. "If you think there
> was more harm than good, you're probably a Republican."
>
> Mr. Clinton told another audience that Republicans had had success
> portraying Democrats as "weak elitists who couldn't be trusted to defend
> their country, couldn't be trusted with tax money, didn't believe in work,
> wanted to give all the money to poor people and people of color."
>
> He said the "antigovernment, values crowd" wanted to make sure "the right
> people were in power."
>
> Once they returned to power, the Bush II team, dripping with contempt for
> Bill Clinton and oozing with "we know best" cockiness, thought they could
> use the sacking of Saddam to change the way Americans saw themselves and the
> way America was seen in the world.
>
> Their swaggering determination to expunge the ghosts of Vietnam and embark
> on a post-cold-war triumphalism has backfired, leaving the military depleted
> and drawn into a de facto draft, and once more leaving America bogged down
> halfway around the world in a hostile nation.
>
> The Bushes and Republicans recoiled at Mr. Clinton's moral relativism about
> Monica, but this administration indulged in a far more dangerous relativism
> when it misled the American public about Iraq's W.M.D., and links between
> Saddam and Al Qaeda.
>
> Instead of Americans' changing their view of themselves, many have changed
> their view of Mr. Bush ? fearing, with the sanctioning of pre-emptive
> invasions, torture and restricting civil liberties, he has gone too far in
> distorting the principles the country was founded on.
>
> The president did end up changing America's image in the world. Just not for
> the better. ??
>
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> From: Michael Butler <michael at michaelbutler.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: FRANK RICH Sex, Lies and No Chalabi -NYTimes
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> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 11:56:26 -0700
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> Subject: FRANK RICH Sex, Lies and No Chalabi -NYTimes
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>
> July 4, 2004
> FRANK RICH
>
> Sex, Lies and No Chalabi
>
> O sooner did the epic Ronald Reagan funeral finally sputter out, leaving
> about as much residual trace on the national memory as the last "Matrix"
> sequel, than it was Bill Clinton's turn for the saturation resurrection
> tour. Like its immediate predecessor, the Clinton mediathon quickly proved
> too much of a muchness.
>
> For me, toxic shock started to set in before "My Life" officially went on
> sale. When Mr. Clinton and Dan Rather jointly donned rustic wear for an
> Arkansas summit on "60 Minutes," they seemed as authentic as Paris Hilton
> and Nicole Richie slumming in red-state America on the Fox reality show "The
> Simple Life 2." On publication day 36 hours later, Mr. Clinton did "Oprah,"
> this time in an income-appropriate power suit, set off by a natty pink tie
> that once again matched his interviewer's ensemble. The hour began with two
> separate standing ovations ? one each for the host and the author. It
> concluded with her giving him two thumbs up. In between, the mutually
> assured narcissism never quit. The closest the conversation got to testy was
> when Oprah asked why her status as a White House visitor did not propel her
> onto any of the book's 957 pages. The author blamed his editor ? a vast
> Alfred A. Knopf conspiracy.
>
> As with the Reagan farewell, pundits obsessively ask of the Clinton rollout:
> how will it affect the election? This is a recipe for infinite bloviation,
> since there is no answer. Voting day is four long months away. The more
> realistic question is what the re-emergence of these past presidents tells
> us about the country that will make that choice. The comeback kid's current
> comeback, even more dramatically than the weeklong siege of Reagan redux,
> gives us a snapshot of an America eager to wallow in any past, even the silt
> of Whitewater, to escape the world we live in now. It's a mood that feels
> less like the sunny nostalgia we imbibe on the Fourth of July than high
> anxiety. Better a clear-cut evil empire than an axis of evil whose members
> can't always be distinguished from our "allies." Better lying under oath
> about oral sex than dissembling with impunity about gathering "mushroom
> clouds" to justify the wholesale shipping of American troops into a shooting
> gallery.
>
> This isn't to say that the spirit of Kenneth Starr has been exorcised from
> public life. But it's now mutated into a parody of itself, a reliable form
> of national comic relief just when we need it. Even as Americans gorge on
> porn, Washington's Keystone sex Kops remain on the march. On June 22, the
> same day that "My Life" hit the shelves with its promise of a fresh slice of
> Monica, the Senate voted almost unanimously, in a rare bipartisan gesture,
> to increase by more than $240,000 the penalty on broadcasters who trade in
> "indecency." Like an outrageous coincidence in a bedroom farce, the day of
> this historic vote was also the one on which Vice President Cheney, visiting
> the Senate floor for a photo session, used a four-letter word to tell a
> Democratic Senator, Patrick Leahy, what he could do to himself.
>
> Mr. Cheney didn't seem to realize he had chosen the very word that had
> helped spur the Congressional smut crackdown in the first place ? the one
> Bono had used at the Golden Globes last year. Has the vice president no
> sense of indecency? Had C-Span only caught his transgression on camera, we
> might have seen Brian Lamb placed under house arrest and fined on the spot.
> Later Mr. Cheney said he "felt better after I had done it," and of all
> commentators, only Jon Stewart had a theory as to why. The vice president's
> demand that Senator Leahy commit an act of auto-eroticism, he reasoned, may
> be a signal that the Republicans are belatedly endorsing the gay-friendly
> ethos of the Clinton administration. "I think it's them opening up their
> hearts to a different lifestyle," Mr. Stewart said to Larry King.
>
> In its account of the Cheney incident, The Washington Post ran the expletive
> verbatim ? another throwback to the Clinton era. It was the first time the
> paper had printed this epithet since publishing the unexpurgated Starr
> Report in 1998. The White House didn't seem to mind. Though Andrew Card, the
> president's chief of staff, condemned John Kerry for using this same word in
> a Rolling Stone interview in December ? "I'm very disappointed that he would
> use that kind of language," the sorrowful Mr. Card had said ? this time the
> transgression was given a pass. We're all moral relativists now.
>
> Surely the moral clarity promised by Mr. Clinton's successors is long gone.
> Much as Democrats helped push for the television V-chip while looking the
> other way at their president's private life, so the party of Kenneth Starr
> now tosses worthless family-friendly initiatives to religious conservatives
> while countenancing Clinton-style behavior among its own if holding on to
> power is at stake. You could see this dynamic in action, conveniently
> enough, during the same week of the "My Life" publication. President Bush
> was in the swing state of Ohio promoting a "healthy marriage" program to a
> cheering crowd just as fellow Republicans were rallying around a rumored
> swing voter of another sort, Jack Ryan, the party's scandal-beset senatorial
> candidate in Illinois.
>
> For those who missed this delightful bit of hard-core politics, here are
> the good parts: unsealed court documents from Mr. Ryan's custody battle with
> his former wife, the TV starlet Jeri Ryan ("Star Trek: Voyager"), included
> accusations that he had tried to coerce her into joining him in public sex
> at a New York club equipped with "cages, whips and other apparatus hanging
> from the ceiling." Mr. Ryan, whose denomination of religiosity extends to
> opposing legal abortion and gay civil rights, defended himself, saying,
> "There's no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere." On The Chicago
> Sun-Times's Web site, coverage of this scandal carried banners touting Mr.
> Clinton's "My Life" as a "related advertising link."
>
> George F. Will, who wrote a column last fall extolling Mr. Ryan for his
> daily attendance at mass and an overall beneficence that makes "the rest of
> us seem like moral slackers," did not raise his voice in condemnation now.
> Nor did any major Republican leader, including Mr. Cheney, who had just
> appeared at a Ryan fund-raiser. "Jack Ryan, unlike Bill Clinton, did not
> commit adultery and did not lie," was how the columnist Robert Novak stood
> up for his man, sounding very much like Arnold Schwarzenegger's conservative
> apologists of last summer. Mr. Ryan, who had been regularly praised by Mr.
> Will and other admirers for being "Hollywood handsome," dropped out of the
> race anyway last week but only because he lacked Mr. Schwarzenegger's
> big-screen bravura (and poll numbers) to tough it out.
>
> Mr. Ryan's demise was the cue for another sex sleuth minted in the Clinton
> years, Matt Drudge, to seek tit for tat by trying to gin up a new
> Clinton-style scandal about a Democrat. A banner story on his site,
> unsullied by any evidence, suggested that "media outlets" might soon go to
> court to unseal John Kerry's divorce records just as Mr. Ryan's had been.
> Even if this titillating possibility hadn't been posted just as an American
> marine was taken hostage in Iraq, it's hard to imagine it creating the stir
> in 2004 it would have six years ago. An earlier attempt by Drudge to pin an
> intern on Mr. Kerry had also flopped, despite the efforts of the former Bush
> speechwriter David Frum to keep the rumor alive on The National Review's Web
> site until it was proved false.
>
> Such prurient fun and games, Washington style, seem like innocent escapism
> post-9/11. Not even Mr. Clinton's renewed omnipresence can help us revive
> the apocalyptic hysteria that attended the Lewinsky revelations. History is
> supposed to play out first as tragedy, then as farce. But this time you have
> to wonder if the farce, though once taken as tragedy, came first. Mr.
> Clinton's claim that he had "never had sexual relations with that woman"
> just doesn't seem as compelling as Mr. Bush's replay of the same script last
> month when disowning his administration's soured affair with Ahmad Chalabi.
> Asked if Mr. Chalabi had fed us some of the false intelligence on weapons of
> mass destruction that took us to war in Iraq, the president said he had
> never "had any extensive conversations" with that man and knew him from
> greeting him on a rope line (more shades of Monica!). To buy that, you have
> to believe that Mr. Chalabi's appearance with Laura Bush as a guest of honor
> at January's State of the Union is as irrelevant to this president's
> assertion of innocence as the stained dress was to his predecessor's.
>
> Two days after Mr. Clinton's appearance on "Oprah," Mr. Bush aped him again
> ? becoming the first sitting president to be questioned by prosecutors at
> the White House since Mr. Starr was in his Whitewater heyday. Ah,
> Whitewater! I wonder if any of its sleazy particulars are as vivid in the
> public mind as the alleged crime that led the new special prosecutor to
> question Mr. Bush 10 days ago: the leaking of the name of an undercover
> C.I.A. officer (to the ubiquitous Mr. Novak) by an administration official
> as payback for the agent's husband's criticism of Mr. Bush. Somehow wartime
> scandals that threaten national security, putting American lives in
> jeopardy, trump those of money and real estate just as they do sex.
>
> Many of Mr. Clinton's old antagonists, as we're learning since "My Life" was
> published, are starting to realize exactly that. "The Monica Lewinsky stuff
> now really seems so last century," said the conservative radio host Laura
> Ingraham on Fox as book buyers lined up for Mr. Clinton. "I mean, it just
> seems so old and tired and nothing new." Thus the new tactic is to update
> the brief to include 9/11. When Mr. Clinton appeared on "60 Minutes," the
> same anti-Clinton group that led the Whitewater charge a decade ago took out
> ads implying that it's entirely the former president's fault that al Qaeda
> wasn't stopped.
>
> Actually, there's more than enough blame to go around ? Osama bin Laden has
> now gotten away during two presidencies. How the current president used
> semantic tricks to conflate Saddam with bin Laden, allowing him to escape
> yet again, is something we'd rather not think about just now. No doubt the
> Clinton revival will be as short-lived as Reagan's. But for the moment it
> takes us back to that halcyon time when we could despise a president for
> falsifying the meaning of a word as free of terror as "is."??
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> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:27:18 -0400
> From: barbarasiomos38 at webtv.net (Barbara Siomos)
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Thank you
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> I would like to thank Michael for allowing us to participate on these
> lists and Patrick for all of his hard work after having the system
> crash. I am happy to help in any way to keep it together by spreading
> the word to re-subscribe at new address...
>
> I have had a few people mention (private e-mail) that they missed the
> camaraderie, or as Nina put it "Feels like a good friend is out of town
> for a while"....
>
> peace,
> barbara
>
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