[Mb-hair] Hair Blog/Hair List

[Sherwin Ross]

Dearest Nina,

I had no idea of the time and effort that went into keeping the HAiR List
functioning.

Thank you for being of service.......

All my love 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross
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-----Original Message-----
From: mb-hair-bounces at islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces at islandlists.com] On Behalf Of
laurie at cubedsquared.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:15 PM
To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair Blog/Hair List

Bravo Nina!  That was really well done.
And I am making a mental note that when I am in need of someone to write
something tactful and politically correct, and still effectively get their
point across, I shall call you. (no lie!) I'm sold -- see ya on the blog
pages.
Laurie

 > it's been a mailing list for ten years, and it's always
>  > done the job, so why change?
>
> There are several ways I can answer that. The first, and the one I 
> would give as a list member as opposed to as its moderator, would be 
> that it is being changed because Michael, who generously covers the 
> not inconsiderable costs associated with giving us this living room in 
> cyberspace, wants it, after much consultation with his web master and 
> server, to change.
>
> The answer I would give as the lists moderator is considerably longer, 
> and includes some of the thought that Michael put into this decision.
> And it hasn't always "done the job" as well as it might. There have 
> been many consistent problems with the listserve format. A small 
> selection of those issues would include:
>
> People with slower connections complaining about large attachments
>
> People with limited mailbox size complaining about large attachments
>
> Having to temporarily unsubscribe when going on vacation so that 
> accounts don't fill up
>
> Bounced emails disabling accounts constantly
>
> The inability to archive not only photos sent to the list, but any 
> email that comes encoded with html formatting. This latter is serious 
> from an archival standpoint, as such important list members as Tioga 
> have email that comes as html, so for some time now his posts, which 
> are often the very ones we want to have permanent access to for 
> research purposes, have not been archived in the list archives. And 
> no, the software couldn't be changed to accommodate this.
>
> The constant difficulties associated with almost all aol subscribers - 
> difficulties in their subscribing, getting the confirmation email, and 
> the regular mass unsubscribing aol does regularly of all aol list members.
>
> And spam! We get a lot. You aren't seeing it, but the list server 
> receives a great deal of spam. Some of you may recall the problems we 
> had in the past with it that necessitated a server switch, with many 
> people threatening to unsubscribe. You don't see that spam any more 
> because every time a piece of spam comes through the server I am sent 
> a notice, and I have to go and look at it, determine whether it is 
> spam or not, and delete it from the server so that it doesn't go 
> through to all of the almost 100 subscribers. While this may take less 
> than five minutes, and may seem insignificant in terms of my time, it 
> doesn't always feel that way when I have to do it 20 or 30 times a 
> day. Please understand - I am not complaining. I am happy to do that 
> as part of being the moderator, and giving back to the Hair community 
> for all it gives me. I only share this so that you can all understand 
> some of the thought process that went into changing the format of the
list.
>
> My personal experience in life has taught me that change is not always 
> easy for me. I like the status quo, and when that changes I am often 
> discombobulated. Until the new becomes the status quo, that is. We 
> have a running joke in my family about this - Trevor had one specific 
> style of Levi jeans that he had worn forever. A few years ago, horror 
> of horrors, they discontinued his beloved style. He got the closest 
> thing he could find it, but everything about the new style was wrong - 
> they didn't fit right in the thighs, the pockets weren't right, and on 
> and on. A year or so later Levi began making the old preferred style 
> again and he happily went out and bought them again. But low and 
> behold, over the year he had been wearing the "new" style they had, in 
> fact, become the "old style", and the old preferred style now felt all 
> wrong, and the new style had become the comfortable familiar. My 
> immediate response to the new style of a blog format for the list was 
> like Trevor's response to his new jeans - this didn't feel familiar or 
> comfortable. But after a very short time there I was able to see that 
> it was a comfortable and easy interface, and one I am sure will solve 
> all of the above listed problems, as well as many more that I have not 
> listed here. I have gotten several emails from list members praising 
> the new blog format, one even  telling me that the current format was 
> leading them to consider unsubscribing, but that they will now stay 
> with us. I know that there are those of you who would prefer things 
> stay in the current listserve format, but I encourage you to go to the 
> blog and check it out. It was suggested earlier in this discussion 
> that it be moved to yahoo groups. If you are comfortable with the 
> yahoo format you will be comfortable with the Wordpress blog format. 
> You won't have to miss the emails, as they are there, just online 
> rather than in your email mailbox. Bookmark the blog site, and check 
> in when it is convenient to you. We all check our email regularly, 
> this is the same as that, just at a different place. If you have any 
> questions or need support in understanding the new blog format in any 
> way let me know! Email me at dayton3 at rcn.com and I will happily help.
>
> I urge you to try it, and to support Michael in the choices he makes 
> for his server, and to trust him that he makes these choices for valid 
> and important reasons, and only after much careful thought.
>
> Love,
> Nina
>
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> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair
>
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