[Mb-hair] Hair Blog/Hair List

Tue May 30 16:13:38 PDT 2006

Nina - I agree.  Kudos to you, Nina, and Michael for making our online
lives better!!

Beverly

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sherwin Ross"
> To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair Blog/Hair List
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:04:21 -0700
>
>
>
> Dearest Nina,
>
> I had no idea of the time and effort that went into keeping the HAiR
List
> functioning.
>
> Thank you for being of service.......
>
> All my love
>
> Sherwin "Ace" Ross
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mb-hair-bounces at islandlists.com
> [mailto:mb-hair-bounces at islandlists.com] On Behalf Of
> laurie at cubedsquared.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:15 PM
> To: mb-hair at islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair Blog/Hair List
>
> Bravo Nina! That was really well done.
> And I am making a mental note that when I am in need of someone to
write
> something tactful and politically correct, and still effectively get
their
> point across, I shall call you. (no lie!) I'm sold -- see ya on the
blog
> pages.
> Laurie
>
> > it's been a mailing list for ten years, and it's always
> > > done the job, so why change?
> >
> > There are several ways I can answer that. The first, and the one I
would
> > give as a list member as opposed to as its moderator, would be that
it is
> > being changed because Michael, who generously covers the not
inconsiderable
> > costs associated with giving us this living room in cyberspace, wants
it,
> > after much consultation with his web master and server, to change.
> >
> > The answer I would give as the lists moderator is considerably
longer, and
> > includes some of the thought that Michael put into this decision.
> > And it hasn't always "done the job" as well as it might. There have
been
> > many consistent problems with the listserve format. A small selection
of
> > those issues would include:
> >
> > People with slower connections complaining about large attachments
> >
> > People with limited mailbox size complaining about large attachments
> >
> > Having to temporarily unsubscribe when going on vacation so that
accounts
> > don't fill up
> >
> > Bounced emails disabling accounts constantly
> >
> > The inability to archive not only photos sent to the list, but any
email
> > that comes encoded with html formatting. This latter is serious from
an
> > archival standpoint, as such important list members as Tioga have
email that
> > comes as html, so for some time now his posts, which are often the
very ones
> > we want to have permanent access to for research purposes, have not
been
> > archived in the list archives. And no, the software couldn't be
changed to
> > accommodate this.
> >
> > The constant difficulties associated with almost all aol subscribers
-
> > difficulties in their subscribing, getting the confirmation email,
and the
> > regular mass unsubscribing aol does regularly of all aol list
members.
> >
> > And spam! We get a lot. You aren't seeing it, but the list server
receives a
> > great deal of spam. Some of you may recall the problems we had in the
past
> > with it that necessitated a server switch, with many people
threatening to
> > unsubscribe. You don't see that spam any more because every time a
piece of
> > spam comes through the server I am sent a notice, and I have to go
and look
> > at it, determine whether it is spam or not, and delete it from the
server so
> > that it doesn't go through to all of the almost 100 subscribers.
While this
> > may take less than five minutes, and may seem insignificant in terms
of my
> > time, it doesn't always feel that way when I have to do it 20 or 30
times a
> > day. Please understand - I am not complaining. I am happy to do that
as part
> > of being the moderator, and giving back to the Hair community for all
it
> > gives me. I only share this so that you can all understand some of
the
> > thought process that went into changing the format of the
> list.
> >
> > My personal experience in life has taught me that change is not
always easy
> > for me. I like the status quo, and when that changes I am often
> > discombobulated. Until the new becomes the status quo, that is. We
have a
> > running joke in my family about this - Trevor had one specific style
of Levi
> > jeans that he had worn forever. A few years ago, horror of horrors,
they
> > discontinued his beloved style. He got the closest thing he could
find it,
> > but everything about the new style was wrong - they didn't fit right
in the
> > thighs, the pockets weren't right, and on and on. A year or so later
Levi
> > began making the old preferred style again and he happily went out
and
> > bought them again. But low and behold, over the year he had been
wearing the
> > "new" style they had, in fact, become the "old style", and the old
preferred
> > style now felt all wrong, and the new style had become the
comfortable
> > familiar. My immediate response to the new style of a blog format for
the
> > list was like Trevor's response to his new jeans - this didn't feel
familiar
> > or comfortable. But after a very short time there I was able to see
that it
> > was a comfortable and easy interface, and one I am sure will solve
all of
> > the above listed problems, as well as many more that I have not
listed here.
> > I have gotten several emails from list members praising the new blog
format,
> > one even telling me that the current format was leading them to
consider
> > unsubscribing, but that they will now stay with us. I know that there
are
> > those of you who would prefer things stay in the current listserve
format,
> > but I encourage you to go to the blog and check it out. It was
suggested
> > earlier in this discussion that it be moved to yahoo groups. If you
are
> > comfortable with the yahoo format you will be comfortable with the
Wordpress
> > blog format. You won't have to miss the emails, as they are there,
just
> > online rather than in your email mailbox. Bookmark the blog site, and
check
> > in when it is convenient to you. We all check our email regularly,
this is
> > the same as that, just at a different place. If you have any
questions or
> > need support in understanding the new blog format in any way let me
know!
> > Email me at dayton3 at rcn.com and I will happily help.
> >
> > I urge you to try it, and to support Michael in the choices he makes
for his
> > server, and to trust him that he makes these choices for valid and
important
> > reasons, and only after much careful thought.
> >
> > Love,
> > Nina
> >
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> > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair
> >
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